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    Terrorists May Use Lasers to Down Planes

    Thursday, December 09, 2004

    WASHINGTON — Terrorists may seek to down aircraft by shining powerful lasers into cockpits to blind pilots during landing approaches, federal officials are warning in a bulletin distributed nationwide.

    The memo sent by the FBI and the Homeland Security Department (search) says there is evidence that terrorists have explored using lasers as weapons, though there is no specific intelligence indicating Al Qaeda (search) or other groups might use lasers in the United States.

    "Although lasers are not proven methods of attack like improvised explosive devices and hijackings, terrorist groups overseas have expressed interest in using these devices against human sight," the memo said.

    "In certain circumstances, if laser weapons adversely affect the eyesight of both pilot and co-pilot during a non-instrument approach, there is a risk of airliner crash," the agencies said.

    In September a pilot for Delta Air Lines reported an eye injury from a laser beam shone into the cockpit during a landing approach in Salt Lake City. The incident occurred about 5 miles from the airport. The plane landed safely.

    FBI and other federal officials are investigating. It is not clear if a crime was committed or if the laser was directed into the cockpit by accident.

    Steve Luckey, a retired airline pilot who is chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association's (search) national security committee, said pilots are concerned about a recent increase in laser incidents, but do not know what to make of them. He said he has learned of two or three cases in the past 90 days.

    "The most recent incidents appear to be aimed at pilots in the vicinity of airports," Luckey said. "A few seem to be intentional, and we're wondering why and what's going on."

    Lasers can cause temporary blindness and severely damage the eye by burning the retina. The bulletin notes they are "relatively inexpensive, portable, easy to conceal and readily available on the open market."

    Lasers are commonly used in a number of industries and are featured in outdoor light shows. A variety of more powerful military-grade lasers are produced around the world, but there is no evidence that terrorist groups have managed to obtain one, according to federal officials.

    The bulletin was sent late last month to law enforcement officials and key government agencies and industries. A copy was obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.

    http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_st...,141066,00.html

  • Well if their going to attempt parking a truck with a laser pointer big enough to completely blind two pilots...then they might as well try loitering right outside an airport fence with a 30mm anti-aircraft gun mounted in the bed of a pickup.

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    • I don't think so.

      It is too hi tech.

      One for crap to scare folks. But it is good business to put our scare stories.


      "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

      I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

      HAKUNA MATATA

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      • They had that scheme in Tom Clancy's "Pacific Rising". The CIA agents shoot down the Japanese E-2s as they are landing.

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        • I think you guys have been watching to many movies!!!
          "I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." Albert Einstein

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          • Is it just me or does it seem like the media advertising all of this might be doing the terrorist a favor.??
            "Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…" -- Thomas Paine

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            • Originally posted by Ray
              One for crap to scare folks. But it is good business to put our scare stories.
              Thats one way we security consultants get business. :)

              BTW, can't a pair of 'raybans' solve the problem?

              Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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              • Originally posted by aussie
                I think you guys have been watching to many movies!!!
                It happened! It's called reality.

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                • Originally posted by Leader
                  It happened! It's called reality.
                  It happened again, just the other day...


                  FBI Probes Laser Beam Directed at Cockpit

                  1 hour, 11 minutes ago


                  CLEVELAND - Authorities are investigating a mysterious laser beam that was directed into the cockpit of a commercial jet traveling at more than 8,500 feet.



                  The beam appeared Monday when the plane was about 15 miles from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, the FBI (news - web sites) said.


                  "It was in there for several seconds like (the plane) was being tracked," FBI agent Robert Hawk said.


                  The pilot was able to land the plane, and air traffic controllers used radar to determine the laser came from a residential area in suburban Warrensville Heights.


                  Hawk said the laser had to have been fairly sophisticated to track a plane traveling at that altitude. Authorities had no other leads.


                  There have been several reports of lasers directed at commercial flights in the past year, the FBI said. The beams can distract or temporarily blind a pilot.


                  The Federal Aviation Administration (news - web sites) mandates that laser light shows must register their locations and the lights cannot be directed above 3,000 feet. Lasers are also often used by construction companies to line up foundations.


                  Interfering with a commercial flight is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison.
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                  No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
                  I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
                  even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
                  He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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                  • Really quite incredible -- wouldn't such a laser soak up a lot of electrical power and shouldn't investigators be able to find this laser with ease?? So why haven't they?
                    This is really a mind bender of sorts - lasers in ordinary homes targetting commercial carriers - it really does sound like some book
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                    • Originally posted by tarek
                      wouldn't such a laser soak up a lot of electrical power
                      Nope, if they're using construction lasers, or light show lasers, most will run off of a normal household plug. The largest one I've ever seen used, producing a powerful beam several miles long, was about the size of a big snowmobile and ran off a 3.5KW generator. The tracking system is the part I wonder about.
                      No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
                      I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
                      even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
                      He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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                      • Not that new

                        This also happened back in September Read Article

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                        • An antijihad missile has been developed.

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                          • Originally posted by Major_Armstrong
                            An antijihad missile has been developed.
                            LOL...
                            That must be the 'Oink MKI'

                            Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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                            • Originally posted by Major_Armstrong
                              An antijihad missile has been developed.
                              Nice one...
                              No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
                              I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
                              even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
                              He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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