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    US starts landmark Agent Orange cleanup in Vietnam

    DANANG, Vietnam (AP) — The United States began a landmark project Thursday to clean up a dangerous chemical left from the defoliant Agent Orange — 50 years after American planes first sprayed it on Vietnam's jungles to destroy enemy cover.

    Dioxin, which has been linked to cancer, birth defects and other disabilities, will be removed from the site of a former U.S. air base in Danang in central Vietnam. The effort is seen as a long-overdue step toward removing a thorn in relations between the former foes nearly four decades after the Vietnam War ended.

    "We are both moving earth and taking the first steps to bury the legacies of our past," U.S. Ambassador David Shear said during the groundbreaking ceremony near where a rusty barbed wire fence marks the site's boundary. "I look forward to even more success to follow."

    The $43 million joint project with Vietnam is expected to be completed in four years on the 19-hectare (47-acre) contaminated site, now an active Vietnamese military base near Danang's commercial airport.

    Washington has been quibbling for years over the need for more scientific research to show that the herbicide caused health problems among Vietnamese. It has given about $60 million for environmental restoration and social services in Vietnam since 2007, but this is its first direct involvement in cleaning up dioxin, which has seeped into Vietnam's soil and watersheds for generations.

    Shear added the U.S. is planning to evaluate what's needed for remediation at the former Bien Hoa air base in southern Vietnam, another Agent Orange hotspot.

    The work begins as Vietnam and the U.S. forge closer ties to boost trade and counter China's rising influence in the disputed South China Sea that's believed rich in oil and natural resources. The U.S. says protecting peace and freedom of navigation in the sea is in its national interest.

    The Danang site is closed to the public. Part of it consists of a dry field where U.S. troops once stored and mixed the defoliant before it was loaded onto planes. The area is ringed by tall grass, and a faint chemical scent could be smelled Thursday.

    The contaminated area also includes lakes and wetlands dotted with pink lotus flowers where dioxin has seeped into soil and sediment over decades. A high concrete wall separates it from nearby communities and serves as a barrier to fishing there.

    The U.S. military dumped some 20 million gallons (75 million liters) of Agent Orange and other herbicides on about a quarter of former South Vietnam between 1962 and 1971, decimating about 5 million acres (2 million hectares) of forest — roughly the size of Massachusetts.

    The war ended on April 30, 1975, when northern Communist forces seized control of Saigon, the U.S.-backed capital of former South Vietnam. Some 58,000 Americans died, along with an estimated 3 million Vietnamese. The country was then reunified under a one-party Communist government. Following years of poverty and isolation, Vietnam shook hands with the U.S. in 1995 and normalized diplomatic relations.

    The Agent Orange issue has continued to blight the U.S.-Vietnam relationship because dioxin can linger in the environment for decades, entering the food supply through the fat of fish and other animals.

    Although the chemical remains at the Danang site, U.S. officials said Thursday that containment measures implemented in recent years temporarily ended the public health threat to the local community.

    In 2007, Vietnamese authorities — with technical assistance from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and funding from the nonprofit U.S.-based Ford Foundation — poured a 6-inch (15-cm) concrete slab half the size of a football field over the contaminated area where Agent Orange was mixed. Dioxin is not water-soluble and only spreads when rainfall and runoff move contaminated mud.

    Vietnam's Ministry of Defense and the U.S. now plan to excavate 73,000 cubic meters (2.5 million cubic feet) employing technology used to clean superfund sites in the U.S.

    Workers will first dig down about 2 meters (6.56 feet). The soil will then be heated to 335 degrees Celsius (635 Fahrenheit) in special containers where the dioxin will break down into oxygen, carbon dioxide and other substances that pose no health risks.

    Vietnam's deputy defense minister, Nguyen Chi Vinh, said Thursday he hopes to receive more support from the international community and the U.S. government to help remediate dioxin hotspots elsewhere.

    The former U.S. air base in southern Phu Cat has already been identified, but he said many contaminated areas in Vietnam have not been adequately assessed.

    It is still unclear how much dioxin the U.S. will help clean up in the long term and how much it will allocate for people who claim to be Agent Orange victims.

     

    3,658 comments

    • TAL  •  1 day 13 hrs ago
      I wonder how many of our own personnel who were exposed to agent orange have not been taken care of properly?
      • scott 13 hrs ago
        Daniel, I agree, but you reminded of what Henry Kissinger said: "Ridiculous, there is no oil in Vietnam". My response to that is: consider the source. Kissinger was the same guy who said about Allende in Chile: "I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its own people". The US is only interested in democracy when a democratic process gives them the results they want. Also, I have an even better quote by Kissinger about soldiers which, when I posted it on another blog, Yahoo deleted it immediately, so I don't think that I'll post it here.
      • Daniel 13 hrs ago
        Scott asks a hell of a lot of questions - he was probably in the grunts and did not know why that damn war was fought and it sure as hell was not to stop the spread of communism in that area of the world

        the Viet Nam war was fought for 2 things - OIL AND RUBBER - huge money and nothing more - the North Vietnamese and the French knew very well that that entire area was loaded with oil - on shore and off shore and rubber exportation has been there basically forever

        i knew this because i was in Army Intelligence and had the need to know basically while the grunts and ground pounders knew basically nothing - the Viet Nam war was all about the money and nothing more
      • Daniel 13 hrs ago
        Scott 2 years is nothing - i fought for 18 damn years to get my 100 percent.

        good clues for you - do not be nice to them - treat them like they treat you with no respect - make yourself a genuine pain in the #$%$ because they hate people who actually fight for their rights - get a good service rep - do not stack your claims - put them all in at the same time because if you don't your file will go to the bottom of the pile when you file a new claim and the most important thing - NEVER GIVE UP because that is what the V.A. wants you to do

        Viet Nam veteran
    • TerryG  •  1 day 11 hrs ago
      How about taking care of all the vets first who fought this POLITICAL conflict for all the politicians first. NONE of our politicians give a damn about our service people, all they care about is the vote and their BIG FAT PAYCHECK along with ALL THE FREE benefits.
      • scott 13 hrs ago
        "This is a very unpatriotic outburst Terry. Get a grip of your self and support your country!"

        TH, he strike me as someone who cares very much about his country. A lot of people here have supporting their country confused with supporting the rich of their country. Corporate capitalists have no loyalty to anyone but themselves.
      • Truth Hurts 13 hrs ago
        This is a very unpatriotic outburst Terry. Get a grip of your self and support your country!
      • scott 13 hrs ago
        "Without them this country would be toast" --- Steve, I'm not blaming the vets, but who's threatening this country, or, more on point, who's threatening this country that we haven't threatened or otherwise messed over first? Might 9/11 have been an inside job designed to get us to support more wars like Vietnam?
    • gonzo  •  Cleveland, Ohio  •  1 day 13 hrs ago
      I asked a doctor once if I could be tested for Dioxin and his answer was......Why would you want to know...................
      • CanteenJesus 13 hrs ago
        A thumbs down, really?
      • scott 13 hrs ago
        "If Ho Chi Minh had told the French he wanted a democracy, do you think the US would have ever gotten involved?"

        "At the 1954 peace conference in Geneva, the Viet Minh
        were pressured by the U.S., China and the Soviet Union
        into accepting a temporary division of Vietnam into
        two sectors, with national elections and unification to
        take place in 1956. By the terms of the agreement,
        outside forces were prohibited from interfering with the
        reunification process. But
        the U.S. had already begun
        to take over in the south
        and cause havoc in the
        north while the conference
        was still in progress. The
        puppet regime it set up in
        the south was comprised
        mainly of the urban Catholic
        elite that had flourished
        under French rule,
        representing about 10%
        of the population.
        The vast majority were
        traditional Buddhist peasants
        who rejected the U.S.-
        imposed dictatorship,
        which soon gained a reputation
        as the worst violator
        of human rights on earth.
        It also refused to hold the
        agreed-upon elections in
        1956 because, as U.S. President
        Eisenhower noted,
        Ho Chi Minh was certain to
        get some 80% of the vote."
      • slickity 14 hrs ago
        Hey, Juan C. WHO is disappearing, WHY are they disappearing? WHY are you blaming President Obama for it?
    • Jim  •  Racine, Ohio  •  1 day 13 hrs ago
      And after denying it was harmful and refusing help for the men they subjected to it they do this??? Just one more slap in the face
      • scott 12 hrs ago
        "@Kit - Invading would mean we weren't asked to come."

        Usually what happens is that the invader works behind the scenes to install a puppet government, which then invites it in after the first sign of "trouble". That's what happened with Vietnam, which was "one country, temporarily divided" just like Korea is almost 60 years later. It's the same thing with Kuwait, which was carved out of Iraq by the British in the 1920's because of its oil reserves. What was different in Iraq was that the US first ground Iraq into hamburger in the 1990's, then invaded and bombed with the "Shock and Awe" which some Vietnam vets said should have happened there, and then the US set up a puppet government.
      • john 14 hrs ago
        The communists had more important things to worry about than cleaning up AO, killing anybody with a higher education, land reforms that resulted in 3 million deaths due to famine, stomping out opposition and ruling through terror and murder.
        Not that I think AO was a good idea and it's sad that innocents, especially the recent generations born after the wars.
      • juan chavez 16 hrs ago
        I am enrolled, but all I HAVE ever got is a piece of paper stating I have agent orange in my body,,,
    • Carl  •  1 day 12 hrs ago
      Why not offer some help to our guys that came back home and can not get medical treatment here ?
      • scott 12 hrs ago
        Hey, Brenda:

        "Yet achieving the center position means the hawks have to admit one of the doves' central points: that we throw the baby out with the bathwater if we give up too much for too long of the democracy we're supposed to be defending, here or abroad. It's one thing to voluntarily submit to temporary restrictions: democracies can do that-that's what World War II made clear. But it's another entirely to sit by while a strongman seizes power that he justifies as necessarily for military reasons-only don't ask what these are, as we'd have to kill you if we told you. It's having the tail wag the dog, moreover, for the hawks to say that the fault is with the citizens for not supporting a military foray of the Commander-in-Chief. It's his (as it's been until now) responsibility to get that support, explain to the people why they should accept temporary limited restrictions of the things our troops are fighting for.

        At the same time, those demonstrating in the streets need to make it very clear that they are demonstrating against a political position, not against the troops, to minimize the hit to morale. (It still might not be zero.) Those who write in the public media must make clear that they understand the difficult position of the men and women who must in fact say, "Sir, yes SIR!" to the Commander-in-Chief. The rest of us don't, and shouldn't be bullied into thinking we should. We should exercise the right to say "no" precisely because those in uniform aren't allowed to."
      • Sgt. 1 day 9 hrs ago
        And if you apply to the VA for an up grade for payment of the PTSD that you hav been carrying because you had seen the Agent Orange and knew what it was. They will send you to see a doctor that Juat happen to ba a draft dogger and did not go to Vietnam and get his drink of Agent Orange
      • Native Born American 1 day 10 hrs ago
        Many of us served during the Vietnam era. No we weren't "in country" but many of us were exposed to Silvex in training units. Whenever I am asked if I am a Vietnam veteran, I Always say that I served in the US during the Vietnam War.
    • John  •  Camden, New Jersey  •  1 day 10 hrs ago
      Spending millions on our enemy while denying benefits to our vets. AO was used all over SEA and is continuing to torture Navy and Air Force vets who didn't have "boots on the ground " How can one man prove the use of AO on the other side of the world, when the U.S. is the only source of info, and all they have to do is say "NO" They've done the same thing to WWII, Korean Viet Vets and they'll do it to these new guys too The Army had an anacronym during Viet Nam FTA, that goes for the VA and the congress that ignores our plight.
    • Redds  •  Toledo, Ohio  •  20 hrs ago
      Again the U.S.A giving out money that was denied to it's own vet who returned from VN. Vets were getting cancer and the GOV told them it wasnt the agent orange doing it and all the VETs were denied benif and died fighting the cancer on their own. Go going again American always looking out for others before your own people.
    • David1  •  1 day 7 hrs ago
      Just keep screwing the VETS! Cut the VA budget again this year too,,why don't you? I am a US Marine VET. Why do I have to drive 50 miles ONE WAY to get medical assistance as a vet when I live within 10 miles of 3 major hospitals? YOU TELL ME? I JUST DON"T GET IT,.. JUST PAY THE DAMN BILLS,,PERIOD!
    • victoria  •  1 day 11 hrs ago
      My brother served 3 tours in the infantry in VietNam and has had tongue and neck cancer. The VA has denied his claim and thousands of other soldiers. The motto of the VA is "To Deny, Deny until they die!
    • Edward  •  Atlanta, Georgia  •  1 day 8 hrs ago
      I want to thank every single one of our veterans for their service. I am sorry that your government doesn't care about what it did to you guys. Best of luck and God's blessings to all of you suffering from things like AO or nuclear tests.
    • Segundo Blue  •  1 day 10 hrs ago
      Does anyone know of a Vietnam Vet who has received any of the "billions" spent on Agent Orange victims? I would like to meet the one who got it all.
    • crossfire  •  21 hrs ago
      as a nam vet in 1965 thru 1967,today im disabled by agent orange that our own goverment inflected on us.we had a chance against the enmy but not against agent orange
    • Gregory  •  1 day 19 hrs ago
      Why not recognize all cancers that vets are suffering from,caused by agent orange.Thousands have died from them,do what's right.
    • Rick k  •  Randolph, New Jersey  •  1 day 12 hrs ago
      No special Agent Orange tests are offered since there is no test to show if Agent Orange or other herbicides used in Vietnam caused a veteran’s medical problems. There are tests that show the level of dioxin in human fat and blood, but VA does not do such tests because there is serious question about their value to veterans.. how about that, Vo Duoc gets tested but our own government won't test us..
    • Robert M  •  19 hrs ago
      How about repaying all the Americans who fought over there for Johnson's interests. They knew in 1968 we couldn't win that war and kept fighting. (Robert McNamara's book)
      I lost a brother to agent orange although I was never exposed to it myself.
      I would like to see Viet Nam Vets treated like the guys who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. We were and in many case are treated like dirt.
    • Daniel  •  Naperville, Illinois  •  1 day 13 hrs ago
      This is AMAZING, after all these years NOW they are doing something about this poison that killed AND will kill thousands of GI'S whom the GOVERNMENT FLAT OUT LIED TO as to what that stuff really was, just lost a family friend who was an attorney and had to jump through hoops to finally get his benefits, he died shortly after, can't wait for OBAMACARE to kick in and get the same runaround from BUREAUCRATS.
    • Joe  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  1 day 12 hrs ago
      Is this the same USA that stonewalled Vets health claims over agent orange for the last 40 years ?
    • Quadgunner  •  1 day 19 hrs ago
      Why? I got a dioxin tainted river not 5 miles from my home in The United States. Nobody want to clean that up.
    • Bad Products  •  1 day 12 hrs ago
      At the VA there is no such thing as agent orange,,,,,,,but we are cleaning it up.
    • Willl  •  Detroit, Michigan  •  1 day 12 hrs ago
      The VA hasn't cleaned me up yet.........................
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