October 17, 2007

Mukasey rejects Bybee memo, compares U.S. torture to Nazi tactics

Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey’s confirmation hearings got underway this morning, and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) explored Mukasey’s position on administration torture policies. His response was surprising.

Not only did Michael Mukasey repudiate the so-called 2002 “torture memo” signed by Office of Legal Counsel chief Jay Bybee — which appears to have survived in spirit, if not in letter — but he compared U.S. torture to the Holocaust.

Most significantly, Mukasey said that he is unaware of any inherent commander-in-chief authority to override legal restrictions on torture — a huge repudiation of Dick Cheney, David Addington and John Yoo’s perspective on broad constitutional powers possessed by the president in wartime — or to immunize practitioners of torture from prosecution. That answer is sure to create anxiety inside the CIA, where many interrogators fear that they will be brought up on charges for carrying out interrogation methods earlier approved by the administration.

The Bybee memo is “worse than a sin, it’s a mistake,” Mukasey said. He referenced the photographs taken by U.S. troops who liberated the Nazi concentration camps in 1945 to document the “barbarism” the U.S. opposed. “They didn’t do that so that we could then duplicate it ourselves.” Beyond legal restrictions barring torture clearly, torture is “antithetical to everything this country stands for.”

Greg Sargent had the same reaction I did — weren’t Republicans apoplectic when Sen. Dick Durbin said something similar two years ago?

Specifically, Durbin, on the Senate floor, said, “If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime — Pol Pot or others — that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.”

The reaction was overwhelming. One suspects the ensuing firestorm to Mukasey’s remarks will be a little less intense (which is to say, non-existent).

Indeed, this is going back a couple of years, so it’s probably worth taking a moment to consider just how far the right pushed this.

In June 2005, shortly after Durbin’s remarks, Karl Rove delivered a speech to the New York Conservative Party in which he said Durbin’s historical comparison was literally dangerous to the safety of Americans.

“Let me just put this in fairly simple terms: Al Jazeera now broadcasts the words of Senator Durbin to the Mideast, certainly putting our troops in greater danger. No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals.”

It was, even by Rove standards, breathtaking demagoguery. On the one hand, he said Durbin was encouraging terrorists. On the other, Rove said liberals in general, and Durbin specifically, intend to undermine the safety of U.S. troops.

In other words, according to the president’s top political aide, Durbin’s comparison was proof that liberals are literally treasonous. (The White House later said Rove was just “telling it like it is when it comes to the different approaches for winning the war on terrorism.”)

Durbin, shortly thereafter, made a tearful apology, but from time to time, you’ll still see conservatives reference his historical analogy (“The Senate Majority Leader says the war is ‘lost’; the Senate Minority Leader compares Americans to Nazis….”)

And yet, here we are, and the president’s nominee for Attorney General is making the same analogy. No one gasped, or expressed outrage, or demanded an apology. Mukasey’s comparison made sense, just as Durbin’s did.

It’s a reminder that the right, for all of its many faults, can manufacture an outrage out of nothing, and then pretend it never happened. It’s almost impressive, in an offensive kind of way.

 
Discussion

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18 Comments
1.
On October 17th, 2007 at 1:05 pm, The New York Crank said:

“It’s a reminder that the right, for all of its many faults, can manufacture an outrage out of nothing, and then pretend it never happened. It’s almost impressive, in an offensive kind of way.”

Well, several alternative possibilities present themselves almost instantly.

1. Mukasey means it, but the Nazi wing of the Republican party thinks he’s only kidding.

2. Mukasey means it, but the Nazi wing of the Republican party is keeping quiet for the moment, just so the Prez can gan empty chair filled and confirmed. Later they’ll scream bloody murder and pressure Mukasey to ignore torture.

3. Mukasey doesn’t mean it; he’s just trying to get confirmed. (See “Stare Decicis” byAlito and Robertson.)

4. Mukasey does mean it but it doesn’t matter because Bush is gonna do what Bush is gonna do, US Attorney General be damned.

There must be other possibilities. Suggestions, anyone?

Crankily yours,
The New York Crank

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On October 17th, 2007 at 1:06 pm, ROTFLMLiberalAO said:

Durbin, shortly thereafter, made a tearful apology…

Yep.
I remember saying back then:
That guy is a lilly-livered spineless sad sack.

Today…
Mukasey makes him look like a professional fool too.

3.
On October 17th, 2007 at 1:07 pm, wvng said:

This only matters if Mukasey acts on it. We have seen one Bush nominee after another lie about their actual intentions once in office. I find it difficult to believe that Bush hasn’t fully vetted Mukasey on the torture issue, and received assurances in return on how he will act.

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On October 17th, 2007 at 1:14 pm, bjobotts said:

The real enemy has always been liberals to these conservatives. Cheney cares less about terrorists than what liberals are doing. The rational American has always felt torture was wrong and unnecessary but had liberals been for it then Cheney would be raving about how our enemies would now be torturing our soldiers and democrats and liberals did not care about the treatment of our troops.
These neocons were more obsessed with one party rule and the elimination of democrats than any foreign terorist. The terrorist were just a means to gain more power or they would have eliminated their threat long ago, yet they pretend to be incompetent to continue profiteering and gaining power.
The real principle of not torturing because we are better than our enemies should be the rational norm…we were just surprised to hear it come from a Bush nominee. Good on him for that.

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On October 17th, 2007 at 1:15 pm, CalD said:

I’m with you, Crank. I’ll start buying this line the minute Bush withdraws the nomination. Ethical conservatives for Cabinet posts? Ha! Not lately — at least, not unless they’re closely related to the “compassionate” kind who veto medicine for babies.

Do I sound skeptical? I probably sound skeptical.

6.
On October 17th, 2007 at 1:17 pm, mikem said:

Let’s not rush to judge Mukasey as being TOTALLY worthy of respect. Glenn Greenwald is live-blogging the event and he’s has managed to evade answering some pretty important and fundamental questions, that should be easy to answer, regarding executive authority.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

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On October 17th, 2007 at 1:17 pm, Anne said:

What difference does it make who rejects or withdraws memos, or what laws are passed in the Congress, when we have a president who just issues signing statements and proceeds to do whatever he damn well pleases?

It’s good to hear Mukasey reject Bybee, and say that he can see the constitutional and legal flaws in it, but this confirms for me that Mukasey will be nothing more than the acceptable figurehead at the DOJ; they will let him do things that don’t mean as much – like restore the morale of the Department – but they will continue to keep the loop on other issues restricted to those who will play along.

I keep reminding myself that this man was an advisor to Giuliani, which gives me not a great deal of comfort.

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On October 17th, 2007 at 1:25 pm, Swan said:

New York Crank, it’s something like 2 and 4, in my opinion. Mukasey is wisely doing the right thing, and the conservatives are surprised.

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On October 17th, 2007 at 1:32 pm, williamjacobs said:

Like the Clarence Thomas nomination long ago, I’m forced to ask…
If the Dems refuse to confirm, who does Bush send NEXT? It won’t be anyone we LIKE….

10.
On October 17th, 2007 at 1:38 pm, Dee Loralei said:

Steve, I think the opperative term you left out was yet. As in “No one gasped, expressed outrage or demanded an apology”, yet. We haven’t heard from Rush and O’Reilly, or Ghoully or the Mittster. Unka Dick and Georgie must be madly working the phones trying to calm the batsh*t criminally insane amongst their faithful. As in, it doesn’t matter what Mukasey says, we have signing statements. If we never hear the outrage then we must assume with these war criminals that the fix is in and status quo ante will remain.

If Mukasey really thinks it illegal, we need to ask ourselves then, when will the dems give retroactive immunity to CIA, FBI and the DoD?

Frankly, I’m with everyone else, what Mukasey says doesn’t matter, it’s what he does, and what the Senate instructs him to do that truly matters.

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On October 17th, 2007 at 2:08 pm, Racerx said:

My guess is that Cheney will just go behind Mukasey and do whatever the hell he wants. Obviously Pelosi and Reid are too chicken to stop him.

Last night’s Frontline was great, it delved deeply into the way Cheney and Addington pushed torture and how Ashcroft and many others refused to go along.

It also covered the whole FISA scandal really well. Don’t miss it!

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On October 17th, 2007 at 9:56 pm, daniel rotter said:

I wonder how Bill O’Lielly will react to this. As a reaction to Durbin’s comments, he said that the Senator should be defeated the next time he is up for election. Do you think O’Reilly will demand that the equivalent happen of Mukasey, in other words, that his nomination for AG be rejected by the Senate? Nah, O’Lielly’s never been one for a pesky thing like “consistency.”

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On October 18th, 2007 at 1:12 am, Tom Cleaver said:

That answer is sure to create anxiety inside the CIA, where many interrogators fear that they will be brought up on charges for carrying out interrogation methods earlier approved by the administration.

Hopefully, on January 21, 2009, the CIA will be arrested and sent to the Hague to be tried for their crimes against humanity over the past 60 years.

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