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Bug: supports on build plate only #1340

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scheric opened this issue Oct 18, 2018 · 10 comments
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Bug: supports on build plate only #1340

scheric opened this issue Oct 18, 2018 · 10 comments

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@scheric
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Version

1.41.0 x64

Operating system type + version

windows 10 home x64

Behavior

  • there is a support structure on the object while the supports have been set to bed only

  • to reproduce: enable supports and enable sheath around supports
    2

  • I excpect that there is no support on the object

  • Actual Results
    knipsel

    • Screenshots from Slic3r preview are preferred

Is this a new feature request?

STL/Config (.ZIP) where problem occurs

Nieuwe map.zip

@scheric
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I tested some more settings and the results are even more wrong then before.

If you disable sheath around infill and set pattern spacing to 4 and the rest the same as picture.
This will happen:

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I have tested this on the portable version of slic3r PE version 1.41.1-rc.
The same results.
Am i doing something wrong?

@scheric scheric changed the title supports on build plate only bug Bug: supports on build plate only Oct 20, 2018
@FidelCapo
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Thank you for report. This is because of how the algorithm for calculating support works. I thing the algorithm is trying to stabilize the support and depends on pattern spacing too because slicer do not cut support in middle of space between supports. That is why they can sometimes appear where they are not expected.

@mdealer
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mdealer commented Dec 7, 2018

This always appears on the object for me no matter what I change. I use 1.41.1.

grafik

In this case I can't even remove the support and the surface quality of the object is basically destroyed on the inside:

grafik

It gets worse if I enable "sheath around support":
grafik

@scheric
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update with PrusaSlicer 2.0.0

The problem is still there.

support error

support settings

suports settings

@timur-tabi
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I have just encountered this problem with v2.0.0+. Steps:

  1. Download https://www.thingiverse.com/download:4890219
  2. Set to "Generic PLA and 0.2mm QUALITY" print settings.
  3. Scale to 103.5%.
  4. Slicer with supports set to "build plate only".

Screen Shot 2019-07-23 at 10 44 29 PM

@scheric
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This issue has a duplicate

#915

@GarthSnyder
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Still there in 2.2.0-alpha2+. See attached project.

Screen Shot 2020-01-19 at 9 32 48 PM
BuildPlateOnly.3mf.zip

@theDoktorJ
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This is still happening in 2.2 full release.
Hero_Me_Dual_5015_Duct_Gen3.zip
Support on build plate only 1
Support on build plate only 2

@bubnikv
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Tested with the current master.

The support columns are trimmed to not land on top of an object. However this may make the column too small to be stable.

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bubnikv added a commit that referenced this issue Mar 19, 2021
1) If "support on build plate only" is enabled, the support columns are
   newly trimmed to not land on top of an object. However this may make
   the column too small to be stable.
2) Support enforcers newly take precedence over "supports on build plate only"
   and over "don't support bridges".
3) Some refactoring of the support generator code for clarity: Reduced
   some of the worst spagetti offenders.

Fixes Support generated even if support on build only activated #915
Fixes Bug: supports on build plate only #1340
Fixes Bottom interface layer is not generated , support on build plate only. (long open defect) #4199
Fixes option "supports on build plate only" does not work #3980

Fixes No support interface layers generated #1997
Fixes Feature Request: Option to combine results of 'support from build plate only' and 'support enforcers only' #2801
Fixes Support interface isn't generated: build plate only + blocked by model + support enforcer #3831
Fixes Support Enforcer don't create interface layers #5748
Fixes Support Enforcers Don't Have Top Loops/Raft #1870
Fixes Don't cancel support enforcers with "don't support bridges" #5105
@bubnikv
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Fixed with 9f09f03

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