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Apple's retail stores in many parts of the world were shut down for much of the third fiscal quarter of 2020, but the iPhone still saw two percent growth, which Apple CEO Tim Cook said was a surprise as the company expected year over year iPhone performance to decrease.

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COVID-19 had the biggest hit on Apple's sales in April, but demand for the iPhone increased in May and June, which Cook attributed to the "very successful" release of the low-cost $399 iPhone SE and economic stimulus packages provided to many in the United States.

The iPhone ultimately brought in $26.4 billion, up from $26 billion in the year-ago quarter, marking two percent growth. Apple brought in $59.7 billion in total, marking a new June quarter record.

Article Link: iPhone Revenue Saw Growth in Q3 2020 Thanks to iPhone SE Launch
 

Woochifer

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The iPhone SE was the right phone at the right time. With consumers pulling back, a midlevel phone with the top performing mobile processor on the market hit the sweet spot in the market as the economy reshuffled spending across all categories. The new SE covers the features that the largest cross-sections of the market wanted/needed, and brought consumers back into the fold that didn't like/need what the newer phones offered. Things like the smaller size and Touch ID are not liabilities with a lot of consumers that still use an iPhone 5/6/7/8/SE as their daily driver.

This was a direct replacement for my iPhone 5s. I was hoping for a smaller phone. All of the iPhone 11 models were bigger than I wanted. But, the Lightning port on the 5s was becoming less reliable and the phone had already taken a couple of water baths over the years (one in salt water and the other in a chlorinated pool). So, I did need something sooner than later. Plus, I didn't know whether to believe the rumors that we'd have a smaller version of the iPhone 12 to choose from.

This has specific appeal to users who've held onto their iPhone 5/6/7/8/SE handsets, and those price sensitive market segments. For the users upgrading from those older iPhone models, they expect to keep their iPhones for years to come. The 5s received iOS upgrades for nearly 6 years, and received its latest security update (iOS 12.4.8) just two weeks ago. The 6s will support iOS 14, and have received almost 6 years of iOS updates by this time next year. With the A13 processor, the iPhone SE should expect at least 5 years of full OS support, which means that it will likely stay current with most major apps for about 7 years. That's a shelf life that no other $400 phone can touch.

The caveat here is that Apple will likely keep the current SE on the market at the current price for at least 2 years, maybe 3 years. If the prior SE model is any indicator, Apple will shift the memory capacity around but won't actually lower the base price. They won't update this phone on an annual basis, nor will they migrate it down to a lower price point. Maximum value means buying the phone now.
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Cook indicated iPhone 11 remains the top seller.

The iPhone SE missed out on a few weeks of sales during its introductory month in April. Expect that gap to close in the 3rd quarter, as iPhone SE sales ramp up and show a full quarter of sales data, and iPhone 11 sales drop in anticipation of the iPhone 12. Except for those consumers holding out for a more fully featured small phone, those looking at the iPhone SE are not as influenced by the usual fall introduction of the new iPhone models.

The 3rd quarter is usually a bad sales quarter for the current iPhone models, because consumers are waiting for either the new iPhones to become available or for the annual price point drop for the current iPhones.
 
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Traded in my 8+ for a new SE because I was tired of having a large phone. Overall I'm happy with the SE but battery life has been terrible (yes, even after installing the latest update) and I miss the telephoto lens. For me, the size outweighs those negatives. Unless Apple releases a small phone with the same cameras as the largest phone and without a notch, I will be keeping this new SE for a very long time.
 

Woochifer

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Tim Apple is surprised that good hardware at a reasonable price point drives demand? What kind of a business leader is that?

Someone who's bracing for the worst during a global pandemic that has collapsed consumer spending around the world. I'm sure Apple had a carefully calculated target for the iPhone SE before the economy ground to a halt. But, once that economic slowdown hits, you don't know the extent by which consumer spending will pull back and how that affects their preferences. Things like stimulus checks and paycheck support also factor into how far back consumers will choke off spending. Last thing you'd want a CEO to do is overbook production as demand crashes.
 

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Yeah, I was wondering whether you were (trying to) make a political point or what.

Smartphones can be a lifeline to the internet for people without better access. Case in point, the whole post is about Apple's growth because of the cheapest phone! When was the last time you sent a CV on paper, without giving an email? How do you Zoom without a computer?
 

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The whole point of the check was to stimulate consumer spending.

In terms of iPhone sales, I don’t think that benefited Apple. Consumers were most likely conserving that stimulus check rather than spending it on an iPhone. On top of that, like 99% of consumers probably finance their smart phone through their carriers because of promotions and discounts. The iPhone is no exception to that, especially given the peak season for the iPhone is upon us.
 

chrisbru

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In terms of iPhone sales, I don’t think that benefited Apple. Consumers were most likely conserving that stimulus check rather than spending it on an iPhone. On top of that, like 99% of consumers probably finance their smart phone through their carriers because of promotions and discounts. The iPhone is no exception to that, especially given the peak season for the iPhone is upon us.

Millions of Americans kept their same job and same income and were handed $1200. Some people absolutely spent that on phones/iPads/headphones/etc. My employer also gave a work from home bonus specifically to buy tech stuff to set up an office at home.
 

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There were really not many good reasons for most people to not buy the SE2020.

If you go prepaid like I did, Straight Talk Wireless, they are charging $349 for the 64gb. It’s a steal phone at that price, with the A13 chip? And portrait mode which not even the iPhone 8 had? It was $376 after tax.
 
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Surprised no one mentioned that Cook gave a shout out to the smaller-iPhone crowd. He gave that as one of the reasons Apple saw good demand for the SE, along with economic stimulus, lots of switchers and the affordable price.

“[The iPhone SE] also seemed to appeal to some people that were holding onto the device a little longer because they wanted a smaller form factor phone.”

It’ll be interesting to see how the 5.4” iPhone 12 does, it’s even smaller than the new SE. But it’ll probably start at almost twice the SE (2020)’s $399, maybe $749.
 
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JM

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If you go prepaid like I did, Straight Talk Wireless, they are charging $349 for the 64gb. It’s a steal phone at that price, with the A13 chip? And portrait mode which not even the iPhone 8 had? It was $376 after tax.
Exactly. SE is such a good buy for anyone with an 8 or lower.
 

The Game 161

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And the more apple release devices with this much power the more it hurts android’s lower end market. God knows how sales would be if it was an option at say £300.
 
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