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harriska2

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Anything less than 4k at 32”-43” seems too small. I’m loving my 40” 4k Samsung with mac mini.
 

JPack

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Some people wanted a more affordable display from Apple.

This conventional 27” LED display is it.

A 32” sounds nice, but from a practical standpoint, will be difficult to sell. Many desks simply don’t have room to accommodate such a large display.
 

UltimateSyn

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Some people wanted a more affordable display from Apple.

This conventional 27” LED display is it.

A 32” sounds nice, but from a practical standpoint, will be difficult to sell. Many desks simply don’t have room to accommodate such a large display.
I’m glad they’re making this, but I wish they would give it a mini-LED option as well. Even as a $500 add-on I’d pay for it. Maybe they’ll add that option down the road.
 

petvas

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I don't believe this rumor. I also do not think that we will see a bigger iMac in the first half of the year, but I am almost sure that it will come in the October/November timeframe. Just a guess..
I still think that having a special event just for an iPhone SE and an iPad Air isn't worth it. Something else, much bigger must be announced. If not, then it will be pretty disappointing.
 

zorinlynx

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May 31, 2007
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If this is true it's going to solidify my tentative plan to just get a Macbook Pro and a 27" external display, rather than another iMac. Truth is, in the long term it will be a more flexible configuration as I can just keep upgrading the computer while using the same display.
 

CWallace

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Aug 17, 2007
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I don’t understand the disappointment if there is no iMac Pro coming. A lot of us are just reading the current product lines (iPhone Pro, iPad Pro and MacBook Pro) and thinking the iMac Pro is just the next logical step.

I believe a fair bit of it is because of all the rumors that up until this weekend had many of us thinking there would be one model of 27" iMac called the "iMac Pro" with various SoC options (M1 Pro, M1 Max, M1 Max Duo), RAM capacities from 16-128GB and miniLED (either standard or an option) and a starting price of around $2500 and going up to around $6500 depending on BTO options.

MCK's tweet now implies that Apple will offer two iMac models - an Apple Silicon version of the Intel iMac 5K with M1 Pro and M1 max and then a separate and unique iMac Pro.

And that unique iMac Pro will likely have only M1 Max Duo and M1 Max Quadro and possibly a 32" miniLED 6K panel so it will likely have a base price of around $5000 and then head north of $10,000 with the M1 Max Quadro, 256GB of RAM and 16TB of SSD.

So if one was hoping for minLED and 128GB of RAM with an M1 Max for around $5000, that configuration will now run maybe closer to twice that because of the 6K display and having to go with M1 Max Duo. And that's disappointing (and might even just be totally out of reach).
 

T'hain Esh Kelch

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Indeed. But that's a nice and safe way of calling yourself (an Apple) leaker. He's been "leaking" quite accurate info before, even though, being an analyst, he's not allowed to.
Lets not invent things that isn't true. It is his full time job and he gets payed for doing this, he hasn't ever leaked anything he wasn't allowed to, because that isn't what he do, and he would instantly become useless at his job if he did so.
 

CWallace

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Aug 17, 2007
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Apple said that the transition will be done by the end of this year so that does not make any sense.
Something is wrong here.

Unlike 2006, Apple is not buying CPUs from a third-party OEM, but instead has to develop them in-house. Not surprising for the most-powerful models (especially a four-way M1 Max) that could take longer than planned.
 

LonestarOne

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Another possible explanation: Ming-Chi Kuo could be talking about Fiscal Year 2023.

Apple’s fiscal year begins in October. If the iMac Pro and Mac Pro are introduced at an October event, that would be FY 2023, and still lines up with previous rumors.
 
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LonestarOne

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Some people wanted a more affordable display from Apple.

This conventional 27” LED display is it.

A 32” sounds nice, but from a practical standpoint, will be difficult to sell. Many desks simply don’t have room to accommodate such a large display.

People want a 32-inch monitor that sells for the price of a 27-inch monitor. And a pony.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Most of the people saying they want a 32-inch super-resolution monitor probably would not pay the price Apple would have to charge for it.
 

tobybrut

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Hard to determine whether Ross Young or Kuo will be right. Young has the perfect track record, but that could be because he tracks only displays, so he's talking to fewer people who make the mini-LED displays for Apple. Kuo is also a supply chain analyst but he's talking to everyone who makes stuff for Apple. Kuo has more sources, but a weaker track record, probably because he has to juggle a lot more sources and has to figure out who's more reliable. Because of that track record and also Apple's promise to complete the transition in 2 years (no Mac Pro till 2023?), I'm going to have to go with Young with fingers crossed.

If Apple only releases a plain LCD iMac, I'm going to wait. I really like those mini-LED screens on the iPad Pro and MacBook Pro. Since my eyes are older and worse than the average person's, I actually see OLED and mini-LED the same (yes, I somehow see blooming on OLED, but I"m sure it's my eyes due to past eye surgeries). Those deep blacks are addicting.
 

sunny5

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We still have WWDC and fall event to announce Mac so I would wait for it. Beside, are there any other products to announce without Mac?
 

dawnrazor

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IF this pans out to be correct and we don’t see a Silicon iMac Pro and Silicon Mac Pro until 2023 I for one wont be surprised in the slightest. Apple has continually left the Pro desktop community in the dust for years and years now… They will jus blame the pandemic for the delay and they wont be wrong… The original Silicon roll out frame work will be replaced by now and we could see a new frame work being proposed at the event this week…

We will get a replacement 27” iMac in several configurations. We’ll get a high end Mac Mini. We might even get a Mac Mini Studio… but if an iMac Pro comes back it feels like it’ll be some time away…
 

Spock

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I wonder if they really need to have an iMac Pro if they have a Mac mini pro. Especially if they release a lower cost display that it can be paired with. Then you can have two of them that match instead of being stuck with an iMac screen.
 

Lounge vibes 05

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One possibility, based on other recent rumors:
* Direct 27" iMac replacement with M1 Pro/Max => "2022 iMac Pro"
* New high-end iMac with MiniLED => "2023 iMac Studio".


From https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/ - June 2020


...so (a) it's pretty ambiguous whether the clock started ticking in June 2020 or the end of 2020, (b) there's a string of pretty good excuses as to why world events may have slowed things down by a few months and (c) "transition" means whatever Apple want it to mean: There's already an Apple Silicon option in every laptop category, an Apple Silicon Mini and an Apple Silicon iMac - there are strong rumours of at least one Apple Silicon "professional" desktop (even if it's actually called "studio") later this year. Nobody is going to sue them if they're still selling one or two Intel models come December.
It’s not ambiguous at all.
A two-year transition from Intel to Apple Silicon means that within two years, all of Apple‘s computers that used to have Intel… will now have Apple Silicon.
Obviously no one is going to sue them if they miss the deadline, but it’s not gonna look very good to their shareholders, and the most responsible thing to do if the transition is being delayed is to inform them on either a quarterly earnings call, or the annual shareholder meeting.
The shareholder meeting was last Friday, and there was absolutely nothing about an extension to the transition.
And it’s one sketchy Twitter account saying the iMac Pro and Mac Pro won’t be out until 2023, vs the rest of the industry saying that the transition will be complete by the end of the year.
I know who I’m believing.
Back in 2020 when the iPhone was delayed by a month, Apple informed their shareholders even before they announced the iPhone 12 to the public.
They would most definitely make a similar announcement if they can’t reach the two-year transition goal
 
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JippaLippa

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As I never was interested in the iPhone, this won't affect me that nuch...
However MANY people will be disappointed...
 

xgman

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A 5K 27" panel already exists as an LG. So Apple chnages the frames and slaps it's name on it to go with a new mac mini. lazy and predictable.
 
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