They are selling this display for close to the equivalent of the old 5K iMac. And from what I can tell, the display isn’t even updated. Bad value for money. Bad.
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Apple Now Selling Refurbished Studio Display Models
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Nope, it's the opposite. [Except I agree it's not for gamers.]
Since Apple eliminated subpixel text rendering starting with Mojave, the only way to get really sharp text on MacOS is with a Retina display. Thus this display is needed by anyone who uses MacOS, doesn't want to pay for the XDR, and needs an external monitor on which text looks very good—particularly including those doing coding and spreadsheet work (unless you go with the LG 5k, which has its own problems).
By contrast, while it is color accurate, and covers 99% of DCI-P3, it only covers 86% of AdobeRGB. It also lacks local dimming, and doesn't offer a true 10-bit panel. Thus it's not really optimized for creatives.
In summary, this display is nicely suited for text work, but isn't really optimized for photography and videography.
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honestly this is the first Apple product in ages the majority of community gathered behind as bad value / not great.
I guess if $240 isn’t much money to you then go for new, but that’s a chunk of change for most folks IMHO.
15% reduction is decent for Apple refurbs considering you get the same return period and warranty as new. Seems a lot of times it’s more like 10%
Not the first. The homepod got a lot of hate and then came the airpod max lol.
Agree. It's the best display I've owned and I am delighted with it. I'm looking to buy a second one, in fact.
I tried a bunch of different 4K displays and none look as good as this - even those that claimed HDR. Throw in perfect MacOS integration and excellent speakers and you have something that no competing display comes even close to matching. It's well calibrated out of the box and anyone who has ever purchased a monitor and spent hours trying to optimize the settings so that it looks right, will really appreciate how good this looks immediately on plugging it in.
MacOS looks beautiful on this as compared to any of the 32" 4K displays that I tried where it's just intangibly worse. It's hard to explain if you haven't experienced it.
I have never understood why people who don't have one of these things pour hate on it. Yes - it is expensive so it is not for everyone, but that applies to many of the things Apple sells. And the webcam is only good enough for Zoom calls, but who needs more than that?
It’s a beautiful display, but yea the camera is horrible, it’s embarrassing. The good thing is with Ventura you’ll be able to use your iPhone camera.
Nice hearing from someone who actually owns one. Much better than the typical forum yada yada from those who don't.
I agree with your assessment. Unless you want to spend $5K+ for an Apple Pro Display XDR (I don't), there's not a better display, especially at that price point. Spot-on about the factory-calibrated color profiles right out of the box. BTW...Apple does have a published procedure for further fine tuning display calibration using your own spectroradiometer and their test patterns. I haven't found a need to do that.
As a photographer I'm fussy about color and image quality and I've yet to see a better display for that purpose. It's a joy using every time I post-process my image files.
As an aside, I also have three LG 4K displays, and while they're nice, there's just no comparison. They are great for running X-Plane, though.
On paper, the LG UltraFine 5K display looks like the same thing on the specs sheet and is a couple hundred cheaper
You're paying for twenty percent higher peak brightness, six-speaker Spacial Audio system, and a full-metal machined aluminum enclosure. That's worth the small price difference to me, which is even smaller now with the manufacturer refurbished option.🤷🏻♂️
And well-calibrated factory reference profiles.
Also, regarding the 600 nits of brightness... Due to the orientation of my studio and the location of one of the windows, in the early morning the low horizon Sun blasts through the curtains and onto the display. Being able to temporarily jack up display brightness for non-photo editing tasks (emails, web research, reading, etc) is a nice feature.
Well, I would add AirPods max and the HomePods to that list of stupidly overpriced product. And the stand for the XDR.
What other monitor(s) on the market today can do what the Studio Display does for a lower price?
Reading this thread on my 27" 5K iMac, which came with a free computer inside.
If it's anything like the 27" 5K iMac display, it's a great monitor
If it's anything like the 27" 5K iMac display, it's a great monitor
I don't get this argument. I've been using dual LG 5k monitors for years. They own the best picture quality of any monitor outside of apple's own XDR. Resolution is everything. I haven't tried the Dell 8k, which I assume is superior still. The only improvement from hereon is a larger monitor. A 32' 6k+ monitor running at 120hz is where true evolution will happen, not this pointless 27" 4k vs 5k debate fast entering the rear view mirror.
Apple's Studio Display is too costly for a lot of consumers! It's more affordable to buy an iMac or couple a Mac studio with an affordable monitor not made by Apple. Maybe Apple should call the Studio Display a "Pro" model and manufacture a more affordable model and name it "SE". Lol.
Look, if your poverty bothers you, instead of whining about it on a public forum, wouldn’t your time be better spent making money instead.
But then again, you’re the kind of people to rage about guys with good looking girls, and wondering why you can’t get one.
Because jealousy is such an ugly trait. That and the fact the stench of being poor is also a turn off.
But feel free to rant away.
But then again, you’re the kind of people to rage about guys with good looking girls, and wondering why you can’t get one.
Because jealousy is such an ugly trait. That and the fact the stench of being poor is also a turn off.
But feel free to rant away.
Yeah as a consumer I'd probably not buy it – 4K or 1440p screens should offer great value for far lower cost. The price is ridiculous.
Going into pro user displays, 1k or much more for a display isn't unusual. In my specific case, creating retina assets on a non-retina display is just aggravating and HiDPI mode on a 4K monitor isn't the same. I don't really see an alternative other than the LG with much lower build quality or a continued use of an outdated Intel 5k iMac.
One of the most criticised new products but for me it is a joy to use. Super handy, the image is incredible and true 5K retina. Having webcam, audio, ports everything there... for me it the best upgrade I've done recently.
I've made some videos about it, in Italian but you can see my complete setup here if you are curious:
And this is the video about Studio Display criticism, always in Italian:
I've made some videos about it, in Italian but you can see my complete setup here if you are curious:
And this is the video about Studio Display criticism, always in Italian:
4K is not enough for true retina, you will use scaling. Studio Display is very pricey but it is superiori and made for retina resolution.