Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023
Files found with Special:Search/Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023[edit]
COM:POSTER are non-permanent display, it cannot take advantage of FOP and permission from the copyright holder is required.
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 34.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 39.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 15.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 33.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 19.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 04.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 13.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 43.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 18.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 12.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 02.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 24.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 17.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 01.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 16.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 42.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 23.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 41.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 21.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 20.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 11.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 09.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 08.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 14.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 06.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 22.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 10.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 07.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 05.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 40.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 29.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 28.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 01.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 42.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 30.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 33.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 32.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 34.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 31.jpg
A1Cafel (talk) 03:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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Proper COM:FOP Israel; The file in question (and many more similars), have been appearing in a permanent exhibition for months, in Kikar HaHatufim ("Kidnapped Square" aka Category:Hostages Square).
So, there is no justification for deletion. This posters together with the posters of other abductees has been hanging since October 2023 after the abduction, on nany fences in Israel.. The posters were not taken down because the war continues, and there are about 140 more abductees that Hamas refuses to release. See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kfir Bibas 9 months old Was brutally kidnapped to Gaza together with his brother Ariel Bibas 4 years old . not yet released.jpg The picture there was not deleted Hanay (talk) 13:03, 22 January 2024 (UTC)- Also pay attention to the VRT permissions that some of the designs have. Hanay (talk) 13:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Ticket:2023122710003649 contains permission regarding to the text and the design of the posters of w:en:Kidnapped from Israel. So first, its a general Keep for me per this example.
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- Regarding the pictures embedded in the posters (or, "Is it necessary to censor and blur the images inside the posters?"): In my humble opinion there is a proper COM:FOP Israel here (as @Hanay quoted, from my explanation there). A source from which the existence of the FoP of the permanent exhibits in the square can be deduced - here.
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· מקף Hyphen ෴ · 21:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, there is permission. MathKnight ✡ (Talk) 13:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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Keep, as User:MathKnight. Oyoyoy (talk) 14:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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Comment The freedom of panorama rules and my explanation for why these don't meet those rules are at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Call for the return the abducted of 2023 Israel–Hamas war. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 17:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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Hi @The Squirrel Conspiracy,
Did you read the source I attached? If you want, you can read the article with Google Translate.
And please, my arguments also add beyond this aspect...
Thank you, · מקף Hyphen ෴ · 22:06, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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Hi @The Squirrel Conspiracy,
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Comment The freedom of panorama rules and my explanation for why these don't meet those rules are at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Call for the return the abducted of 2023 Israel–Hamas war. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 17:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- The Squirrel Conspiracy, Similarly to this discussion, not all of the images that are in the current discussion require the permission of the copyright owner because their use is marginal, that is - Commons:De minimis.
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For example, There are no posters or pictures of abductees in these files:
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 28.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 29.jpg
In these files the images are a small part of a larger work:
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 06.jpg - The file also shows handwritten graffiti, the Israeli flag, buildings, street lamps, etc. In addition, the images are blurred, most of them in a way that does not allow identification
In these files the images are not essential, so removing them will not make the file unusable:
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 43.jpg - The file also shows people in a central street of the city of Tel Aviv. In addition, the near images are small and blurry while the distant ones are unrecognizable
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 13.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 19.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 34.jpg - The file also shows people in a central street of the city of Tel Aviv. In addition, the near images are small and blurry while the distant ones are unrecognizable
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 01.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti and the Israeli flag. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 24.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 02.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti and the Israeli flag. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 18.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 08.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 09.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 20.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 21.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 23.jpg - Handwritten graffiti has importance in itself
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 16.jpg - Handwritten graffiti has importance in itself
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 07.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 10.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti and the Israeli flag. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 22.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 14.jpg - The central element in the file is handwritten graffiti. In addition, the displayed images are blurry and unclear
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 01.jpg - The file also shows the stage building with the Israeli flag which is important and useful in itself
In these files, the images are shown in insufficient detail and/or with insufficient clarity:
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 33.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 15.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 39.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 42.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 12.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 11.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 41.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 40.jpg
- File:Kidnapped Square in Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 05.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 33.jpg
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 30.jpg
These files show pictures of the murdered and not of the abducted, which as explained in previous discussions are in a permanent state and are used for commemorative purposes:
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 31.jpg - The central element in the file is the poster that shows a mirror and not a photo of an abductee. The image on the sticker is small and blurry, and it is not essential, because the file will be useful even without it
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 34.jpg - The central element in the file is the poster that shows a mirror and not a photo of an abductee. The image on the sticker is small and blurry, and it is not essential, because the file will be useful even without it
- File:HaBima Square, Tel Aviv - Iron Swords War 2023 32.jpg - The central element in the file is the poster that shows a mirror and not a photo of an abductee. The image on the sticker is small and blurry, and it is not essential, because the file will be useful even without it
In my opinion there is no need to delete the files whose main element is not pictures of abductees. At the same time, the issue of the permanence of the posters must continue to be investigated, only for the files in which the images of the abductees are a central element that is clearly displayed so that its removal renders the file useless. Chenspec (talk) 20:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Kept: No consensus for general deletion. No prejudging relisting individual or smaller carefully sullected subsets of images. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)