Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Kidnappings during the 2023 Israel–Hamas war

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Files in Category:Kidnappings during the 2023 Israel–Hamas war[edit]

Per Commons:Deletion requests/File:תמונות החטופים הישראלים בעזה, מרכז הקניות של רובע א' באשדוד, דצמבר 2023 01.jpg. COM:DW - photos of photos. {{FoP-Israel}} allows for freedom of panorama when an image is "permanently situated in a public place", but these aren't permanent installations. Permission from the owners of the original photographs or the illustrators are required.

The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 23:48, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Squirrel Conspiracy You put a lot of effort into looking for pictures of those kidnapped by Hamas. So why didn't you mention this? Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kfir Bibas 9 months old Was brutally kidnapped to Gaza together with his brother Ariel Bibas 4 years old . not yet released.jpg where the image was not deleted because there is a VRT permission received? I haven't checked all the pictures uploaded for deletion, but all those designed by Dede, Nitzan Mintz and Tal Huber should be removed from this Deletion request. They are easy to identify by their design.
See also Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Call for the return the abducted of 2023 Israel–Hamas war
FYI, all the photos I took are still in the same place, they will not be removed at least until all the abducted by Hamas are returned. 4.5 months have passed since October 7, 2023. And there is a chance that they will always remain there as part of the public space in Israel. Have you heard about panorama freedom in Israel?
User:Geagea please add ticket:2023122710003649 to all those pictures. Thank you. Hanay (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Closing admin: please see my comment at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Call for the return the abducted of 2023 Israel–Hamas war regarding the above-mentioned VRT ticket being insufficient. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:55, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to respond with reasons for keeping all the pictures I took and maybe more pictures as well. It takes time. Because at one time 33 different pictures I took were requested to be deleted. See User talk:Hanay
I ask the Commons administrators to give me the time to do so. Do not rush to delete. It is much easier and faster to demand deletion than to write reasons against deletion. Thanks Hanay (talk) 07:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, @The Squirrel Conspiracy.
The photos mentioned above that I shot personally (1 & 2) are a classic de-minimis situation.
According to sect. 22 of the 2007 Copyright Law of Israel,

An incidental use of a work by way of including it in a photographic work, in a cinematographic work or in a sound recording, as well as the use of a such work in which the work was thus incidentally contained, is permitted; In this matter the deliberate inclusion of a musical work, including its accompanying lyrics, or of a sound recording embodying such musical work, in another work, shall not be deemed to be an incidental use.

— See here
These photographs contain many supposedly-copyright protected photos, that are beyond particular recognition. Even if we allow ourselves to go nitpicking to the extreme, it would be very unlikely that one whom holds the copyright to these photos would have any claim in these photos.
Also, both are part of Government of Ashdod-led campaign that is ongoing since October. Claiming them as captures of "non permanent installations" would be very inaccurate. These photographs hold importance as a part of a Government campaign, and they do not seem to take away the rights of anyone.
Keep. מקף־עברי (talk) 21:03, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Squirrel Conspiracy, Similarly to this discussion, not all of the images that are in the current discussion require the permission of the copyright owner because their use is marginal, that is - Commons:De minimis.

For example, There are no pictures of abductees in these files:

in these files the images are unrecognizable:

In these files the images are a small part of a larger work:

In these files, the images are shown in insufficient detail and/or with insufficient clarity:

In my opinion there is no need to delete the files whose main element is not pictures of abductees. At the same time, the issue of the permanence of the posters must continue to be investigated, only for the files in which the images of the abductees are a central element that is clearly displayed so that its removal renders the file useless. Chenspec (talk) 12:32, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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